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    DanceCommander
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    Presedential elections

    Post  DanceCommander on Wed May 23, 2012 11:07 pm

    alright well, heres a topic that is probably more contreversal than most so here it is. Would you rather have obama in for another term or Romney as the new president of the U.S.? and remember dont be afraid to respond opinions are always welcome and allow people to learn things they didn't before.
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    Post  Iskavan on Wed May 23, 2012 11:43 pm

    Romney, i wanted the fat one with the white hair, gringrichten or whatever his name is, but it looks like its gonna be romney . . hell a kindergartner would be better than obama.

    last i checked he got us 14 trillion dollars in debt . . i havnt checked in a while i think it went up.

    So i heard obama had a talk with russia-
    Obama- lets destroy our nuke stock piles
    russia- yeah you go ahead and do that

    obama actually got rid of some of our nukes . . . . quote from russia "if isreal or america invades Iran we are nuking both of you"

    now we have less nukes to fire back . . . . thats a slight problem if i do say so myself.

    did you know obama is the first president to be born outside of the united states? he was born in kenya. he wrote it in his book. "first black kenyan to be on the Harvard council" that isnt an exact quote because i forget what council but you get the idea, also says "ogama born such and such year in kenya africa" . . . his editor even said it was correct. and the book editor has to check school records and birth certificate before publishing . . . ogama paid over 1 million dollars to have all his school records sealed . . . . now why would he do that. its so he can say "publisher got it wrong my father wa born in kenya not me" if we saw his hardvard school files we would see he was born in kenya. and he het to produce a real "not fake" birth certificate. so not only is he the first black president but hes the first not american president.

    he wants free medical care like canada . . . well canada announced in, it was either 2010 or 2011 that there free medical care has made them broke and that they are switching to our form of medical where everyone pays for it. . . . because no county in the history of the world no matter how good there economy is can support free health care . . . its just impossible to expensive . . . ooh and did i mention we are 14 trillion dollars in debt . . ooh shit how are we going to pay for it.

    i lost my train of thought . . . but hopefully we have some democrats here that will call me a liar and really get this topic started XD

    ooh and bush was a bad president . . but obama is 7X worse . . you cant keep blaming bush for everything obama has done, it was obamas choice to make us 14 trillion in debt.

    Remember when the world says "your money aint worth shit, pay us back now" . . . . it will end like the little punk who borrowed to much money from the italian maffia . . dead at the bottom of the river.
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    Post  DanceCommander on Thu May 24, 2012 12:21 am

    Well, for me personally as long as we have a somewhat medium amount of stockpiled nukes there is no need to fear russia because even if they only think that we still have nukes there is no way they would risk annhialation. now north korea or Iran on the other hand thats a different story.

    But in the case of democrat or republican i'm not completely sure on where i stand on some things i agree with obama but on others i dont. first of all i belive in a sort of socialist-capitalism mix, but seeing as how the "American Dream" is still trying to keep on i dont think something like that would ever happen. However you have to remember that its not obama that put us in the trillion dollar debt, though he has not been able to lower it any, also you have to remember that a national debt is an economic strategy and the only president to ever fully pay it off was Andrew Jackson and by the end of his term it was back. but thats not saying the higher the better its just that sometimes being a little in debt is better than not being in debt.

    Anyway there is no way that the next president will resolve this economic crisis and maybe not even the next 4 or 5 after him. right now i belive that the best way to accomplish this is to create jobs. even if there bull-shit and not really doing anything, but you need to get money flowing through the system. there are two ways that i can see to accomplish this. have the rich people create jobs, or have the government create jobs. Having rich people create jobs might be better according to the American Morality but the problem is that rich people would rather stay rich at the moment than give to the lower classes.

    anyway those are my thoughts.
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    Post  Iskavan on Thu May 24, 2012 12:37 am

    Obama spent 14 TRILLIOn to create jobs . . . fat lota good that did
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    Re: Presedential elections

    Post  Collapsar on Thu May 24, 2012 9:58 am

    Iskavan wrote: quote from russia "if isreal or america invades Iran we are nuking both of you"

    WTF?! Shocked

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    Post  DarthNihilus on Thu May 24, 2012 11:27 am

    Wow Isk you are like my new favorite person, In colorado all we have are Obama loving demacrates,you normaly get shot for saying stuff like that, but I agree with you, I was a little disapointed when Ron Paul went out the running though, I was hoping he would win.

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    Post  Tator56 on Thu May 24, 2012 1:13 pm

    Ron Paul in my opinion has the best views but he will never win because no matter how many races he runs in he cant pool millions of dollars in to campaigning. When you hear statistics of Obama's campaign machine where he will be spending 1 billion dollars just to win another 4 years in office. Or even Romney who spent 50 million on TV ads for the Iowa caucuses alone, not counting the other states he paid TV spots for. Then when you hear them debate they talk about being in the middle class and everyone in America is struggling right now with our current economy......wow.....

    I don't think Obama did a bad job in office, his views just don't match those of the majority so he gets a lot of flack.

    I don't think we will ever be free of debt as a country. Reagen and Clinton were the only 2 presidents I know of that at least stopped the debt clock during their terms but was still unable to turn it back.

    Andrew Jackson paying back the national debt was easy at the time, what did we owe $1,000.00?

    I think Romney is the lesser of the two evils, not based off his view points or what he plans on doing but because the checks and balances our government is setup on if you have a republican congress and a democratic president nothing gets done because they put their party issues before what would be best for America. (Obama wants to make universal healthcare, Republicans own healthcare companies so they say HELL NO. Republicans want to open a pipeline to create 1,000s of jobs. Obama says you don't want my health care, fuck your pipeline.)

    Its a vicious cycle, the only way to get stuff done whether good or bad is to have the same party in both offices.
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    Re: Presedential elections

    Post  Iskavan on Thu May 24, 2012 9:41 pm

    i agree with tator accpet that obama did horrible, i like both parties i believe that both are necessarily top run america. because both parties have there own good qualities. I just proffer republican most of the idealism to democrats.

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